I read a post recently on artshub.com.au entitled “Why artists don’t have kids”. Basically the author (a mother by age 25) had noticed that many of the creative twenty and thirty-somethings of her acquaintance had forgone having children and she was wondering why.
“Parenting takes time, money and energy” she writes, “all resources that are equally sucked by a creative career”. She concludes that it’s a shame if artists miss out on having babies just for these reasons, because:
While having children inevitably produces logistical hurdles and organisational requirements, it also becomes one more life challenge to grapple with, and a choice that ultimately enriches lives and careers, more than hindering them.
Some of the people commenting below had taken umbrage to her ideas. I myself objected to her suggestion that having children is “a choice that ultimately enriches lives and careers” – what, everyone’s, every time, or just hers? Speak for yourself, I said. It’s offensive and excluding to generalize like this – it points to a lack in those who choose not to have children, not to mention a lack in those who don’t feel enriched by parenting.
Also, with no experience of the alternative – by which I mean a life as a non-mother beyond the childbearing years – you aren’t qualified to judge whether it’s less “rich” or not.
I forgot all about this until I was alerted to a reply to my comment, which read:
I don’t understand… all women who have children have experience of the alternative… we have all been childless before having children. We understand what it means to not have them.
How to count the ways this annoys me. Can I be the only one who thinks that being a non-parent in your twenties and thirties, in a culture where it’s not remotely unusual and where many of your friends and peers are still childfree (the majority of mine had kids in their mid to late-thirties), is the same as being a permanent non-parent in your forties and beyond? Do I even have to point out the social, cultural and psychological differences between the two positions?
You hear this notion expressed frequently, if you’re looking in the places I’m looking, and it flabbergasts me that people think their experience as a young non-parent could be the same as a middle-aged or elderly one. Clearly in these cases having kids didn’t “enrich” the grey matter.


It’s bizarre…isn’t it? The lack of understanding of infertility or childlessness continues to amaze me. There is a HUGE difference between not having children yet, and not having children at all…..especially if you wanted children and it’s beyond your control. That comment is aggravating! It dismisses all of the emotional stressors that go along with being childless or childfree….and compares them to a time when children are still a guarantee of the future, but just not yet.
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Oh my word. Where to even start? How bloody annoying.
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Oh yes. They know what it is to live life without children. Her life before her children in her early 20s is just the same as mine! Ha! What a load of smug insensitivity. I’ve written about this a number of times, but clearly it still irks me. You’re not alone.
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Thank you Mali
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This really irks me more so when it comes from people within the infertility community who went on to become parents. My life is very different being married and childless at 36 than it was at 28. Responsibilities have changed, finances have changed and how my life experiences in the last 6 years have changed me.
What people who have children don’t get is that when you’re childless before having children there is always the possibility that you’ll have kids. When you go through infertility and come out childless there is no possibility you’ll have kids. Your outlook on life is very different. You’ve suffered a loss that no one thing will ever replace. And most importantly you had no say in the matter. You didn’t make the decision to be childless it’s just what life circumstances handed you.
Those who say it are downright wrong and incredibly offensive.
Thank you so much for saying this.
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I agree, the two things are worlds apart.
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What about the 20 something who doesn’t have children because she isn’t there yet, versus the 20 something who doesn’t have children and knows she never will because it’s not something she wants? People who don’t want kids have a vastly different outlook than people who do eventually want them but just don’t have them yet. I’m living proof and I see that in my interactions with women my age who do want to be mothers.
It may be a silly example but, for example. A woman I work with and her husband just purchased a house that’s their “starter home” and they plan to move into a larger place when they start their family. When my husband and I were house hunting we purchased the house we will die in. We never have to move again because there’s no way just the two of us will outgrow a four bedroom house. Did we need a four bedroom house? No, we were looking for a two bedroom but this one fell into our lap and now we each have a room for our own personal use! Which is funny because people who don’t know us are like “Wait til the babies come, you won’t have an office anymore” and I’m like “haha, YES I WILL!”
I get the logic of the comment but … she clearly wasn’t thinking things all the way through.
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I think it’s a great idea to have an extra room each: I love it! And thanks so much for your insight
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Yeah, the extra rooms are pretty awesome. My husband’s is a movie room so after I go to bed he can go in there because I can’t hear that TV from the bedroom. Mine is my office where I do all the household accounting stuff, work on writing, work on crafts. It’s nice to have separate spaces and not be on top of each other all the time like we were in our little apartment!
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I am so tired of parents claiming that life is only truly fulfilling or enriched by children. It is so arrogant and in many cases not true. Like anything in life– it is personal and situational. I have a friend who feels stuck and sad and lost after having her children and losing her career. It isn’t all roses and the idea of that is misleading and smug. Finally- I really cannot stand when people write declarative statements with little to no background knowledge. Ok- rant over 🙂
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Ha thanks for rant! I agree, I think such statements put pressure on parents to feel that their lives should be better. I wish people would just makes these claims in the first person..
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I’ll never understand why people are so fixed in their opinion concerning this matter. It looks like becoming a parent brings you to a higher level and you become automatically better than others just because you gave birth. Being a parent is possibly one of the hardest jobs, no doubt, but this doesn’t allow people to draw a chart and determine who is better. Like seriously, according to this mentality an unsatisfied mum is better than Mother Theresa, who was a nun and never gave birth, lol. Are we serious? People are incapable to understand that we all have a path, which can be different from the one of the others! I also hate when these people say that individuals who choose not to have kids are egoist. Excuse me? I know several people who don’t have kids, but they are spending their lives looking after their sick parents. What about that?! And even if they are “egoist”, what’s their problem? Not everyone is meant to have a family. They should mind their damn business and not judge the personal life of others.
And the woman you mentioned who commented like that…how can she compare two situations that are completely different? It’s not the same thing, really.
Sorry for the rant 😅
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Hi Sara, not a rant at all…
It’s an area full of landmines and no one seems to agree on anything.. I wonder if there’ll ever be any harmony…
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Oh wow. How quickly she demonstrated she’s both terribly naive and narrow-minded. This reminds me so much of other comments from those who have never experienced loss. They assume that having not experienced something is the same as having lost the it. There’s something in them that inhibits them from going to that deeper level. It’s a child-like state of existence.
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“They assume that having not experienced something is the same as having lost the it.” – that’s put so eloquently, thanks Cristy
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These things that those blessed with children say, huh? Sweeping statements that just seem to trip off the tongue (or keyboard).
There is an arrogance to it, whether intentional or not that I find quite disturbing… I would never assume the woman with young children is this blissful earth mother serenely coasting along, because life isn’t like that – neither would I assume those childless through choice or otherwise are selfish as I’ve often heard proclaimed by parents.
It still boils my blood how people assume but then I remember there’s the word ‘ass’ in assume 😉
Sisterhood, what sisterhood? Sigh… thanks for sharing, a great thought provoking post as always!
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Thanks Bamber you are spot-on
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I think we should also ask elderly people in their 80’s/ 90’s how they feel about having had children too. It breaks my heart every time to see those children that people have given their everything for, later abandon their parents/ Ignore them….
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Exactly
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I agree with everyone here! I think these women especially those who became mothers at a young age, compare us, non mothers, to their young selves before becoming a mother. Like we never grow and mature, and nothing has changed in our lives. And they claim they have the best instincts and unconditional love, how’s that huh?! Only us can really understand each other.
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That’s so true Claire
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That comment to your comment on that article… Ughhh. So ignorant and annoying! Comparing my life after surviving infertility to a younger person’s who just hasn’t had kids yet really, really annoys me. It reminds me how much people just don’t get it.
And then I read your reader’s comments on this post and I feel much, much better. Thank you. ❤
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Thanks Phoenix x
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Oh man… that response… I’m repeting myself, but really, some people just don’t *think*…
Did you write anything in answer to that comment?
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Hi Elaine, I did…. I told her she absolutely had not lived ‘childfree’ if she was referring to the years 20-25 (she had kids in her mid-20s). To me it’s like saying a 17-year-old is living ‘childfree’.
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I agree!
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That sort of thinking is just so typical. All women are seen as potential mothers instead of as complete beings. As someone who is childfree, and being in acquaintance of one or two women who are infertile…I can’t help but feel angry at comments like this, which we all are exposed to on a fairly regular basis. It’s good to know that there are other people out there who are fighting the same battles, though…stay strong, ladies!
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Thanks Andrea!
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Oh, groan! One of the things that has dawned on me recently is that many people with children view someone like me as being where they were, developmentally, right before they had children because that’s the only “child free” space they can relate to. In asserting this incorrect context, they fail to realize the havoc, evolvement and transformation that can take place on other paths, such as infertility and non parenthood. Cristy said it perfectly – “They assume that having not experienced something is the same as having lost it.”
Your comments, on the other hand, are awesome. Bravo to you!
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I love how you put that – yes they do seem to view us as being in the exact same ‘condition’ – mentally, culturally, everything – that they were in just before they had children. How can we be the same? So frustrating in so many ways. Thanks for the very perceptive comment
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My God the blanket statement that that woman makes is just repulsive and ignorant. Yes because it’s of your career choice that you are not having children… The thing that makes me laugh even more is that she chooses the term creative to describe the ones who aren’t choosing to have children at the age of 25 or insinuating that women all need to have babies seven years out of high school (no way in hell I wanted to get pregnant at 25 – and I was working at a newspaper – I wanted, like many women I knew, to actually enjoy my twenties before committing to a spouse or a family).
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It’s madness, isn’t it
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Hey
Thank you for taking the time to step on over to Love Relaished Ink. It’s wonderful to have your whimsical soul as a new companion on my long and winding road.
From what I have seen of your blog so far, I’ve no doubt you are already finding writing a totally engaging and personally fulfilling experience. I hope the pleasurable company of words will always flow and follow you as you flow following the flow of your flowing path flowing into the wide blue yonder, and flow onwards towards the adventures that follow the flow beyond that…
Best wishes. Take care always in all ways for always.
Namaste
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